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This is all bull... :dumbhorse:
The truth is that you ban the yang buyers becase its alot better to buy yang than DC. Its not because they feed the bots.. you can't stop the bots.
Its just that player realise its better to buy yangs and not Dragon Coins. So let's perm ban them! :dumbhorse:

100$ and you buy 300KK :dumbhorse:

1 Bonus add for 3KK. :dumbhorse:

1Bonus add -> 99Dragon coins. :dumbhorse:

99DC -> How much worth in $ ? I don't know since I never bought DC, but you do the math and tell me if its 5 times better to buy Yang.

That's your post sorted out. I think you're are still struggling to understand the rights of ownership. In every post you've made on this subject you're just coming across rather bitter about something. Yes GF is a business and they need to look after their investment ofc, also, every online game that is owned by a legit company follows the same sort of guidelines.
Good posting Jona, seems like most people understand what you are trying to do now, it's good to be kept informed and am looking forward to seeing improvements on the server, but know it wont be an overnight transformation. A little disappointed about the yang buyers being brought back but hey, every one deserves a second chance. Maybe confiscate a few of their items and see how they deal with the situation, straight back to yang sites maybe :ninja: .

Of course I understand the rights of ownership, thats why they ban the yang buyers, am I not clear enough for you? lol.
And Jona don't tell them to cheat, asuming you will take care of that. We know who cheats in here lol. and fair players will get ban while cheaters run free and ruin other players game play.
You are one great example
And MoonProphet, I don't know who you are, probabily just downloaded metinUK and having fun with wilddogs, obviously you know nothing about team members. So please stop posting just to get a higher post count..

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 2:23pm
Sorry Jona but I meant to say thnx to Cadee for thread >.<.
@rain If you understand rights of ownership, you should really try and stop making it out to be better option, and yh compared to you I may be a newer player but I understand the game and how yang sales effect it.

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 2:50pm

Quoted from "RainDrops"
This is all bull...
The truth is that you ban the yang buyers becase its alot better to buy yang than DC. Its not because they feed the bots.. you can't stop the bots.
Its just that player realise its better to buy yangs and not Dragon Coins. So let's perm ban them!

100$ and you buy 300KK

1 Bonus add for 3KK.

1Bonus add -> 99Dragon coins.

99DC -> How much worth in $ ? I dont know since I never bought DC, but you do the math and tell me if its 5 times better to buy Yang.

i bet that those same calculations got you perm banned :rolleye:

why you simply can`t stop dealing wisdom here?...in every post of your,you are trying to attack the team because they did the right thing
i mean...this server got crap because of the same 'open-minded" people as you are,only they spent real money to make it worse...

first...i agree with Cadee with every single word.

second..i disagree that those permanent bans should be lifted..why?.because people getting perm banned for more ridiculous reasons,and the same ones who made this server so bad place .......gets warning bans...well no comment on that

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 3:24pm
From my oppion, the yang buyiners totally ruined gameplay.

If you come to ch1 jinno and you want to have a pearl there a hunderd there, before these bots people where really proud they had made a nymph+9 or Battlesword+9 or some Shiny armour.

So whats the point of fishing and take a risk opening a cl@m and maybe find a pearl inside.
(This week i fished with my +6 pole and got about 20-30 clams and not even 1 pearl inside maybe i catch some and im real real happy if i find 1 becouse i worked for that pearl.)

The hackshield will bring order order in this server finally, it has gone to far allready.

Shops are selling day by day less neat items and everybody is walking with shiny weapons and shiny armours, this hackshield will bring the fun and balance back to the server.
And i hope the team will hunt those chars who created these yangfarmers and autofishbots.

Good artical [GA]Cadee and its all true sadly.

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 4:13pm
With due all respect to Cadee's post I still think banning the yang buyers will NOT solve the problem and you KNOW it
I mean banning a scammer permanently would be much better and you also KNOW that the server is full of them still alive and kicking in game.
A warning FIRST would have been FAIR for the size of the offense also if possible take the yang they bought since you can spot them you know.
And do not be too bureaucratic and run and grab me a rule from your list of rules that half of them are being broken every single day if not all.
You DO know that yang buying is NOT the biggest problem of this server. Some people on this list have worked for years on their chars. and no appreciation for this from your side at all of course why do you care !
You can warn first time and make an official warning and state that NEXT time yang buyers will be permanently banned since you have warned the first ones in front of all.

Even in rule enforcement in real life, Bureaucracy is much less than it is in this GAME .

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 5:01pm
hey 1 question....... do these websites really provide yang??
I`m just a student so i don`t mean to buy any YANG from them...........Just wanted to know......:P
And btw it is really gr8 that Cadee explained how this Bots work!
Good JOB CADEE! :thumbsup:

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 5:39pm

Quoted from "Cadee"
Yang buyers are the strongest in game.

So imagine this...

Player A has played the game for 3 years, they worked hard farming at their own level and maybe having a few low level farmers, they make good items by farming the items required and selling in shops their drops, they work in parties because even though they worked hard they still cannot afford to make everything they have +9 etc regularly buys dragon coins to improve the items they have worked hard on. Has pride in what they have achieved. Is happy and excited when they make something great or reach the next level. They have a huge understanding of the game and have a long enjoyable game play.

Player B starts game, gets power levelled, buys yang, buys all the best gear, buys a few dragon coins so he can speed up his skills level, is able to buy loads of soul stones and make them P.

Outcome:

Player A quits the game; they cannot compete with a yang buyer

Player B, stands around town/dt bored out of their minds, they have nothing to work for = Game Over

On a personal level as a player..

I stand with Player A, I worked hard, I paid my dues to Gameforge, I have reasonable items, I have goals, I have achievements, I have friends, I have fun, I laugh, I kill, I die :)

I think DC buyers are strongest in game not yang buyers cuz u can have a lot of yangs and trust me you wont fiind the items you wish to buy

and Player B lol , how about if this player bought loads of DC and become stong and make his skils P ? should not be respected right ? cuz he was to lazy to work for that and he spent his real money on DC .

In your personal opinion as a PLAYER I see only jealousy , and hate for those kind of players
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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 7:02pm
well this situation is pretty easy and i dont know why ppl are freaking about it, either the supporters or ppl against.
many of those ppl who are on ban list are my friends or my brother's, i think its pretty fair to ban them for a month since this rule just came in. (banning yang buyers)
yang sellers are illegal in this game and i dont understand why its legal to buy from them. buying yangs from an illegal party is a good reason for a ban. 1 month for a start wont hurt them but it will make them think if its worth it. dono if someone mentioned it in this thread or the other but i only saw main accounts on that list, what if someone is buying yangs with noob chars? what will happen at that time?
u cant compare buying yangs to buying dc. those yangs are made in illegal ways from start due to hacks, they made accounts using hacks, they lvled using hacks and they are fishing using hacks. ppl who sell dc are buying those dc with their own money, its seller/buyer decision to sell/buy dc at their own risk.
all in all, ppl are warned about bots buying from them doesnt make them bad ppl but its just a game for christ's sake.

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 7:18pm

Quoted from "jaypp"
well this situation is pretty easy and i dont know why ppl are freaking about it, either the supporters or ppl against.
many of those ppl who are on ban list are my friends or my brother's, i think its pretty fair to ban them for a month since this rule just came in. (banning yang buyers)
yang sellers are illegal in this game and i dont understand why its legal to buy from them. buying yangs from an illegal party is a good reason for a ban. 1 month for a start wont hurt them but it will make them think if its worth it. dono if someone mentioned it in this thread or the other but i only saw main accounts on that list, what if someone is buying yangs with noob chars? what will happen at that time?
u cant compare buying yangs to buying dc. those yangs are made in illegal ways from start due to hacks, they made accounts using hacks, they lvled using hacks and they are fishing using hacks. ppl who sell dc are buying those dc with their own money, its seller/buyer decision to sell/buy dc at their own risk.
all in all, ppl are warned about bots buying from them doesnt make them bad ppl but its just a game for christ's sake.

i agree with broukho... DC sellers are good for both the company and the players , it bring more money for the company , as it helps the players that cant afford DC from ther own rl money , think of it as a gift from a player to another , since the one u gona buy from have to be someone trustable and u know very well ,yang buying is illegal cuz the yang is made in a illegal way as broukho said... but DC sellers and buyers is a trade between a player and another at there own risk with a legally bought DC and a legally made yang .
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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 7:38pm
Metin-2 US had exactly the same problem, they introduced MODS,
These MODS had no bonuses of a normal player, the MODS where normal Players,
but they had Direct Contact To GM's, their Ability was too be able to point out problems
for players in this game, now from what i see you only have GM's in the game, but not MODS,
the yang Bots where sorted out quickly mainly beacuse they all got banned so fast beacuse
of the mods managing too tell the GM's who was a bot, quickly and easily, with proof ofcourse.

+ 1 On Fight against The bots, i think a change in the way fishing works may be a good attempt to stop the bots.
Thank You Shenks for the signature :cool:

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 7:52pm
tbh i think ur being too soft on them, they should get a perm ban out right, as its illegal.
not much point in being soft at the start.

hopefully the hackshield when it comes up will sort out most of the bot problems and remove their ability to make any money.

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Saturday, May 1st 2010, 10:05pm
i worked hard for my lvl and items i have on me and my char . i buy from item shop and try to make me strong and try to have fun in this game, i been here almost from start whit my char. It been really hard work to come their i am today, but when i see ppl buying yang for real money and they get easy +9 items and lvl fast up. it start not to be fun anymore when i see ppl get hacked lose everything they havei i could been ruin too of a hacker but i got lucky and was able to still be here, but some ppl are not. this yang buyers should be ban for buy yang for real money .
as i know it is only legal is to buy for real money is on item shop. it is forbidden to buy acc and items for real money.

you get ban for buying acc and items for real money but
what is it for diffrent to buying yang items or acc for real money
i dont see the diffrent so I think buying yang should be same as buying items and acc
make it fair to take them awy it is enogh not fair to player who can´t buy dragon coins but that is legal. but if the team let this yang buyer free and let them come back in the game you guys make it more not fair to the player who can´t buy anything at al.
remember it is only on item shop it is legal to buy for real money the rest is forbidden
so please make it more fair to them who can't buy anthing at al and we who buy from item shop

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Sunday, May 2nd 2010, 5:14am

Quoted from "Shannara"
tbh i think ur being too soft on them, they should get a perm ban out right, as its illegal.
not much point in being soft at the start.

Common Shannara...... I thought u will help me out...... lol.. :luvu:

Just kidding..... I made my point in 140 th post of linked thread...:P

@ Uffe...
Sir, No one says "I am buying yang" ... its just a simple trade between charactrs... like any other item we trade in game....
Eg: I made a shop to sell 1 hay for 1 mil..... then some one come and buy it from me..... I dont know how he got that money........
if its illegal, all the other trades should be illegal too.........
coz I dont know how the other person got that item or money......

end of story....

there is a solution ..... Add a new thing to the Item shop.... 1 mil yang for 100 DC.....
So Gameforge can get the money thats goin for yang sellers....
easy for everyone will be happy...:))

Have fun.....lol...
edit - i messed up with the quotetion...lol


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